FLUSHING PLANNING COMMISSION

 

MINUTES

 

SEPTEMBER 3, 2002

 

A Regular Meeting of the Flushing Planning Commission was called to order by Chairperson   Robert Matsko on September 3, 2002 at 7:30 P.M. at City Hall.

 

Present:        Dennis Bueche

                   George Kozan

                   Robert Matsko

                   Walker Fesmire

                   C Neil Blackmore

                   Jack Owens

                   John Olson

 

Absent:         John Gault (Excused)

                   Ron Johnson (Excused)

 

 

Also Present: Dennis Bow, City Manager

                   Marlene C. Stone, Deputy Clerk

                   Doug Piggott, City Planner (Rowe Inc.)

 

Pledge of Allegiance:

 

Approval of Minutes:         AUGUST 5, 2002 (REGULAR MEETING)

 

          MOTION by Bueche, supported by Olson, to approve the minutes of August 5, 2002 as written.

         

          Yea: 7

          Nay: 0

          Motion carried.

 

Meeting open for public comments:

 

          Elva Cook

          315 Sunnyside Dr

 

Meeting closed for public comments:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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New Business:         SPECIAL USE PERMIT – 1519 E PIERSON RD

                                                                      55-25-576-012

                                                                      (USED CAR SALES)                                                                       

 

Discussion:

• Mr. Doug Piggott, Rowe Planner, spoke to the commission and stated:
1. The property is zoned B-2 and the used car sales can be permitted by special use permit.
2. The parcel is surrounded by B-2 zoning.
3. Four items listed in 153.167 were missing from this application:
• Plant species.
• Height of existing building.
• Dimensions and lighting of proposed sign.
• Location of the structure used for storage, loading or unloading areas, storage area of hazardous materials or fuel storage. (This may not be shown because they will not have storage areas but it should be noted on the plan if there will not be any storage on site.)

 

4. Parking spaces required will be six.  (If more than 1200 square feet of building

space is used then more spaces may be needed.) (The plan should show which spaces are for sales and which are for customer/employee parking.

 

5. No obscuring walls will be necessary because adjacent parcels are also zoned

B-2.

 

6. The site plan does not show any area for major repairs or refinishing.  Major

repairs and refinishing are prohibited by ordinance and this should be noted as a part of any approval.

 

7. Because no loading/unloading area is shown on the site plan the commission may want to impose a condition to state that no loading or unloading can be done on site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8. The ordinance requires a driveway isle adjacent to ninety-degree parking spaces to be 24 feet and adjacent to parallel spaces the requirement is 12 feet. This site plan proposes an isle width of 14 feet adjacent to the ninety-degree spaces. This could indicate a one-way isle. The plan also shows a 10 1/2 foot isle adjacent to the parallel spaces. (At minimum the 10 1/2 foot isle would require a variance and it would be determined by the Planning Commission if the 24-foot isle requirement is necessary given that the isle will only be one way.) (One-Way areas should be noted on the plan.) (The next available ZBA meeting is in December.) (A major concern with the 14-foot isle is if there is adequate room to turn into the ninety-degree parking spaces.)

 

9. The storm drain was shown without any grade information so the engineers could not formulate any drainage review.      

 

 

• Mr. Rade Beslak, BM Construction Consultants, and Jarod Petiprin, partner with Gary Goad, property owner, spoke regarding this project:

 

1.      Plant species will be evergreens and possibly maples and deciduous shrubs. (These will be shown on the detailed plans.)

2. The existing structure is 16 1/2 feet high. (Will be used as an office.)
3. The sign will be a low profile 4 X 8 foot structure with inside lighting. (No floodlight.)
4. There will not be any storage or hazardous materials or fuel storage on the site.
5. The home has 1200 square feet of usable area.  (1600 foot with garage area included.)
6. No large trucks will load or unload on site.  Cars will be driven in and out of the site.
7. The access lanes will be one-way except at entrance. Traffic will cross in front of the building and not have to go around back of building.
8. They will be requesting a variance from the ZBA on the 10 1/2 foot traffic lane next to the parallel parking spaces.
9. Three spaces in the front of the building and spaces to the right will be for customer parking.  Spaces in back of building are for employee parking.

 

• Mr. Olson stated he needs more information on the discussed changes shown on the plan before he would feel comfortable making a decision regarding this plan.  (Wants to see a plan showing which spaces are display and which are customer and employee parking.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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MOTION by Fesmire, supported by Olson, to table this item pending a plan submittal with           the following information:

 

1.      Plant species.

2.      Height of existing building.

3.      Dimensions and lighting of proposed sign.

4.      Usable floor area

5.      Request or note on plan to waive the loading/unloading requirement.

6.      Note on plan that applicant is requesting a variance from the twelve foot isle width requirement for the isle adjacent to parallel parking spaces

7.      Supply the necessary grade, drain size and drainage calculations.

8.      Identification of parking spaces and display spaces on plan.

9.      Note on plan that no refinishing or major repair will be done on site.

 

     Yea: 7

     Nay: 0

     Motion carried:

 

 

New Business:         REZONING – PRD / SITE PLAN – SITE CONDOMINIUM

                                                                                                CONCEPT

                                                             449 N ELMS RD

                                                                   55-25-200-042         

Discussion:

• Mr. Piggott stated:

1. That this is an unusual review request because it includes a number of different ordinance requirements. (Rezoning, site plan, site condominium and private road.)

2. If the commission decides to recommend approval to City Council then the applicant would need to provide a more detailed site plan and site condominium master deed.

3. The parcel is approximately twelve acres.

4. The required drawing labeled “Existing site conditions” has not been provided.

5. Lot size requirement is seventy-five feet at the building line and most lots on the plan are only sixty feet or less.  (These would require a variance.)

6. There are also some issues regarding street design.  (The plan does not comply with the private road ordinance requirements.)

7. The applicant will need an easement for a ten-inch sewer line, which would come across city park property. 

 

 

 

 

 

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8.The site plan shows two twenty-foot access lanes with a forty-foot right of way. The developer said they were going to provide a sixty-foot right of way. (The north road still shows forty feet and this would require a variance or waiver from City Council if that is what they are proposing.)

9.Our engineers have asked the developer to show that the storm water discharge into the wetlands will not adversely affect adjacent properties. (They have not provided any information/calculations regarding this request.)

10.The water lines will connect off of Elms Road and will require approval of   Genesee County.  It is possible the developer may need to install a master water meter for metering county water into the development.

11.We may need guidance from the City Attorney on this approval process. Can we recommend approval of the rezoning without recommending approval of the site condominium concept plan?  Should they be done together?  Mr. Bow stated he believes the rezoning is conditioned on the site plan but will check with the City Attorney.

 

 

 

Public hearing open for public comments:

 

          Several people spoke concerning the traffic volume, safety issues, decreases in property

          values, wetland preservation, pond levels, wildlife, children safety issues, garbage

          and school bus access on narrow streets and small lot sizes.  Some letters from other

          residents were provided.

 

Ron Graves                 Dawn & Mark Silva        Elva Cook     Cathy Miller   

467 N Elms Rd           475 N Elms Rd               315 Sunnyside Dr   459 N Elms Rd

 

Doug & Tina Compton       Pat Lemex                Roy & Gayle Caron 

441 N Elms Rd                 433 N Elms Rd                   451 N Elms Rd

 

Public hearing closed for public comments.

 

 

          MOTION by Kozan, supported by Fesmire, to table this item until:

                   1. Information can be obtained from legal council on the approval process

                             order.

                   2. Storm water calculations/drainage pattern.

                   3. Copy of wetland delineation report.

          Yea: 7

          Nay: 0

          Motion carried.

 

 

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General Discussion:

 

Mr. Olson asked for some Planning Commission training on procedures for special use  permit approvals. Mr. Bow said he would set up a training session.

 

 

 

 

Adjournment:

 

          MOTION by Blackmore, supported by Olson, to adjourn.

 

          Yea: 7

          Nay: 0

          Motion carried.  Meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.

 

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